Redesign admin UI in a comprehensive way that addresses the needs of business site users
October 26, 2018 · 18:27 · Ray Gulick
Description
The current admin was intended primarily for bloggers and single site owners. An admin UI redesign that caters more to the needs of business site users would be a big step in serving CP's primary market.
Voters
+20 more
Tags
Difficulty: Hard
Request: Modify feature
Discussion
Pieter Bos
· October 26, 2018 · 18:30
Big fat upvote for this :)
Ray Gulick
· October 26, 2018 · 18:33
Thanks, Piet. Not sure 'Easy' is the appropriate difficulty rating if it's done in comprehensive fashion I'd like to see.
David Shanske
· October 28, 2018 · 00:27
What would that look like?
Ray Gulick
· October 29, 2018 · 01:47
I guess that question would be answered after the redesign.
David Shanske
· October 29, 2018 · 01:48
Shouldn't that question be answered while doing it?
Ray Gulick
· October 29, 2018 · 01:50
point?
David Shanske
· October 29, 2018 · 01:52
I wanted to know more about it. But, I will wait until someone wishes to do it then.
Ray Gulick
· October 29, 2018 · 01:54
Yes. This is where we see which ideas ppl want to support.
James Nylen
· October 30, 2018 · 07:01
I'm changing this to Difficulty: Hard. There should probably be another setting for Difficulty: We haven't decided what we want to do here yet.
Mike Schinkel
· November 1, 2018 · 21:44
This petition is too abstract to be actionable IMO. I would suggest delineating what exactly you envision in terms of bite-size actionable changes/enhancements and then submitting a new petition for each one.
Also, consider reviewing the existing petitions for those that target actionable changes/enhancements to the admin so as not to dilute votes, as there are already several (2 of which I submitted.)
Ray Gulick
· November 1, 2018 · 21:52
I noticed other admin UI requests that, IMO, take a piecemeal approach to redesigning the admin UI. I'd like to see it be a more comprehensive effort, with the first part of the process being a discovery process that determines what kinds of improvements the business site market would value. So, I guess that's the first actionable item there; others TBD.
Mike Schinkel
· November 1, 2018 · 21:55
Said that way, it does sound more actionable. Would it then be fair to say that this would be more what you had in mind?
"Determine changes required for the admin UI to best meet the needs of business site users?"
Ray Gulick
· November 1, 2018 · 21:55
It's been piecemealed into its current state, I don't think it's gonna get a lot better by piecemealing it's way out.
Ray Gulick
· November 1, 2018 · 21:56
Yeah, I could go with that.
Anonymous
· November 7, 2018 · 21:29
Don't know if this is anywhere near compatible with this discussion but there are plugins that theme the admin dashboard. They make it much more aesthetic, for certain applications. I find that people I work with are more receptive to the admin area when it is better themed.
I am not associated with them and I am not recommending their plugin. I am providing it as an example of what I am talking about. There are a few just by that developer.
Not suggesting using plugins to change the UI but looking at that approach, maybe it might not be as difficult to make things more business friendly than some might think. They also give a little more control to the user for branding purposes.
Big fat upvote for this :)
Thanks, Piet. Not sure 'Easy' is the appropriate difficulty rating if it's done in comprehensive fashion I'd like to see.
What would that look like?
I guess that question would be answered after the redesign.
Shouldn't that question be answered while doing it?
point?
I wanted to know more about it. But, I will wait until someone wishes to do it then.
Yes. This is where we see which ideas ppl want to support.
I'm changing this to Difficulty: Hard. There should probably be another setting for Difficulty: We haven't decided what we want to do here yet.
This petition is too abstract to be actionable IMO. I would suggest delineating what exactly you envision in terms of bite-size actionable changes/enhancements and then submitting a new petition for each one.
Also, consider reviewing the existing petitions for those that target actionable changes/enhancements to the admin so as not to dilute votes, as there are already several (2 of which I submitted.)
I noticed other admin UI requests that, IMO, take a piecemeal approach to redesigning the admin UI. I'd like to see it be a more comprehensive effort, with the first part of the process being a discovery process that determines what kinds of improvements the business site market would value. So, I guess that's the first actionable item there; others TBD.
Said that way, it does sound more actionable. Would it then be fair to say that this would be more what you had in mind?
"Determine changes required for the admin UI to best meet the needs of business site users?"
It's been piecemealed into its current state, I don't think it's gonna get a lot better by piecemealing it's way out.
Yeah, I could go with that.
Don't know if this is anywhere near compatible with this discussion but there are plugins that theme the admin dashboard. They make it much more aesthetic, for certain applications. I find that people I work with are more receptive to the admin area when it is better themed.
One of those plugins is https://codecanyon.net/item/material-white-label-wordpress-admin-theme/18155767
I am not associated with them and I am not recommending their plugin. I am providing it as an example of what I am talking about. There are a few just by that developer.
Not suggesting using plugins to change the UI but looking at that approach, maybe it might not be as difficult to make things more business friendly than some might think. They also give a little more control to the user for branding purposes.
related: https://petitions.classicpress.net/posts/101/create-an-admin-settings-page-w-icons-grouped-by-category